Governor Services

Clarendon Governors Forum

Date 23 February 2004

Time 7.00 - 9.00pm

Location Winchester Professional Centre

Present

Mr C MacNab

Brig D Ryan

Mr G Cobb

Mr W Heaps

Mr P Marke

Mr M O'Brien

Mr A Simpson

Dr M Bainbridge

Mrs J Blackstaff

Mr J Mason

Mrs B Mason

Mrs C Hamilton

Mrs K Hercock

Mrs C Kennedy

Mr M Leah

Rev H Wright

Mrs J Riley

Mrs Moore - Rosindell

Mr C Henry

Mrs J Cartridge

Mrs J Pittfield

Mr A Waller

Mr G Woolford

Mr P Stanton

Mrs M Woodhouse

Mrs D Brown

Mrs L Gittins

Mr J Bailey

Mr J Smith

Dr J Morgan

Mr A Hawley

Ms H O'Leary

Mrs P James

Mr M Morris

Mrs D Woodley

Mr S Bannerman

Mrs A Forsey

Mr S Cook

Mrs J Harris

Mrs J Amies

Dr M Windram

Mr D Corner

Miss M Burden

Mrs J Ainsworth

Otterbourne Primary School

Vigo Infant School

Norwood Primary School

Bishops Waltham Infant School

Romsey Junior School

John Keble Primary School

Alderman Quilley School

The Mountbatten School

Colden Common Primary School

The Mountbatten School

Halterworth Primary School

North Baddesley Junior School

Wyvern Technology College

Shepherds Down School

Kingsclere Primary School

Four Marks Primary School

Osborne School

Wherwell Primary School

The Westgate School

Hatherden Primary School

Hatherden Primary School

Hatherden Primary School

Shakespeare Infant School

Abbotts Ann Primary School

Romsey Infant School

Romsey Infant School

St Peter's Catholic Primary

Ampfield Primary School

Test Valley School

Norman Gate School

Norwood Primary School

St Swithun Wells Primary

Stoke Park Junior School

Chandlers Ford Infant School

Western Primary School

Cupernham Junior School

Micheldever Primary School

Perins School

Weeke Primary School

South Wonston Primary School

Crestwood Community School

Anton Infant School

Ecchinswell & Sydmonton

Ecchinswell & Sydmonton

In Attendance

Mr D Allen

Mr R Gray

Mrs J Sheriton (arrived 20.05)

Mr P Hand

Mrs M Tanner

Executive Member

Chair, HGRG

Head of Governor Services

Local Governor Services Co-ordinator

Administrator, Governor Services

Apologies

Mr J Watley

Mrs S Curtis

Mr C Dalgleish

Cllr Mrs P Peskett

Mrs L Byrne

Mrs C Gayler

Mr B Hindle

Mrs S Collis

Mrs H Bax

Mr K Ampleford

Perins School

Owslebury Primary School

Olivers Battery Primary School

St Bede Primary School

Swanmore College

Norman Gate School

Thornden School

Henry Beaufort School

Bursledon Infant

Fair Oak Junior School

Action

2 Welcome and Introductions

As no chair had been elected at the last Clarendon Forum, Mr John Mason took the meeting.

Mr Mason introduced Cllr Don Allen, Executive Member for Education, Mr Robin Gray, Chairman, Hampshire Governors Representative Group, and Dr Janet Sheriton, Head of Governor Services.

3 Minutes of the last meeting

The Minutes of the last meeting were confirmed.

4 Matters Arising

John Mason confirmed that Christina Hamilton of North Baddesley Junior School was now a HGRG Representative.

5 What kind of Governors' Forum do we Want?

John Mason handed over to Cllr Don Allen and Robin Gray to discuss the issue.

Don Allen and Robin Gray said it was essential for Governors and the LEA to meet and discuss issues. They said the purpose of the Clarendon Forum was to:

· Ensure a good relationship between the LEA and governors

· Prevent governing bodies being isolated

· Allow governing bodies to share experiences and identify common issues and concerns

· Allow the LEA to be aware of `rumblings' within governing bodies and/or schools

· Enable major changes to be discussed before the event - this gives schools the opportunity to discuss potential problems and solutions and possibly effect changes

· Operate in a way governors find most beneficial

· Enable a two-way exchange between LEA and Governors

· Ensure a parity with other areas of the County of representation of Governors in the LEA, as the Forum chose their own representatives on LEA committees. In other parts of the country, the LEA decided who would hold these positions.

· Hampshire's relationship was so good with governors, that many other LEAs ask Hampshire Governor Services for advice.

A governor, also a member of the New Forest Forum agreed with everything that had been said, and added, `We should not look at individual Forums, but together, Forums can create a force in which the degree of consultation is almost unique'

What Representation do we want?

It was believed by some that the low attendance at the Clarendon Forum indicated governor's satisfaction. Some governors had only attended the Forum when they were interested in the topic. It was suggested that every Clarendon Forum should be an open Forum, also that the timing of the topic to be discussed was vital, as some issues, like the budget cannot wait 6 months, for the next Forum. It was suggested that an ad-hoc meeting should be arranged when a big issue came up, or perhaps the Clarendon Forum should occur twice a term.

It was also suggested that the roles of Primary school governors and Secondary School governors have different agendas and perhaps the Forum should be split into two to cater for these differences.

After much discussion, it was decided that the roles, duties and obligations of governors, whether they are from Primary, Secondary or Special Schools are the same. The recent presentations at the Clarendon Forum: the Music Service, SAP and ICT were relevant to all schools and if the Forums were split, they may not be viable. It was therefore agreed that a `mixed' forum would be best all round., but perhaps with `breakout' groups within the forum for governors from different types of school to discuss issues and experiences particular to their type of school.

What issues do we want raised at county or national level?

Cllr Allen was asked whether it was relevant to raise issues such as funding for SAP and ICT that refers specifically to schools at the Forum.

Cllr Allen pointed out that it was the Forums that convinced the Government that school budgets should reflect some measure of funding to all schools for training on SAP and Workforce Re-modelling.

Cllr Allen was also asked whether problems with issues such as special seating in schools could be brought to the Forum. He replied that it could be brought straight to him, but may be relevant to other schools, so he should be informed, and it should be brought up at the Forum.

Anything that affects a governing body, be it strategic or operational, can be brought up at a Forum.

Should we always meet in Winchester or move the venue around?

It was agreed that Winchester is central to Hampshire, so was a good place to hold the Forum. If the meetings were moved around, this may cause confusion.

What do we expect from the Chair of the Forum?

The Chair is in office for one year. They liaise with the Vice chair and one other to discuss the agenda for the next meeting, chair the meeting, and confirm the minutes. There is a minimum of paperwork.

6 Elections

John Mason asked for nominations for the position of Chair. William Heaps of Bishops Waltham Infant School volunteered. This was seconded. William Heaps was duly elected Chair of the Clarendon Governors Forum.

Nominations for the position of Vice Chair were sought. John Bailey of Ampfield Primary School volunteered. This was seconded. John Bailey was duly elected Vice Chair of the Clarendon Governors Forum.

Representatives to attend the HGRG were sought. Christina Hamilton and John Mason are already representatives, two more were called for. Colin MacNab, Gerry Cobb and Mike Windram agreed to attend the next meeting as guests to see if they would like to be representatives.

Phil Hand then explained the purpose of the Service Review Group. It acts as a Governing Body to Governor Services, giving advice on budgets and charges. The meetings are held once a term, and paperwork is substantial. Phil asked for representatives to attend the SRG. John Smith and Chris Henry volunteered.

Volunteers were requested for the Governors Working Practice group. Phil Hand explained that this group meets termly and decides which items of working practice governance and policies should go on the Governor Services Website. This enables other schools to see an effective working model of governance, and policies in use, which is extremely useful. Andrew Waller and Amanda Forsey volunteered.

7 Governor Awards

Phil Hand explained the Governors' Awards, and suggested that governors who work beyond their own school, for example serve as a governor and are also on the HGRG are nominated by Governor Services for a special award should have their presentation at the Forum.

Don Allen was very happy to recognise exceptionally long and active service, and he would like the presentation to be somewhere slightly more formal than the school. There were two main issues for using the Forum: Recognising the achievement of the governor in the appropriate place and the need for an audience who would recognise the achievement of the governor. If the profile of the Forum was raised, it would be easier to invite people to the Forum for the presentation.

A point was raised that governors who don't usually attend the Forum may feel uncomfortable, therefore governors should be given the option to have the award presented at their own school. Janet Sheriton pointed out that there was no intention of changing the present policy where schools present awards in their own schools. Presentations at the Forum would be for certificates for governors who have worked beyond school governance, and had been nominated by Governor Services.

There was general agreement that governors in receipt of certificates from Governor Services should be presented with them at the Forum.

8 Hampshire Governor Representative Group/County Forum

Minutes for these meetings can be found on the Governors website on: www.hants.gov.uk/education/governors/HGRGminutes.html and www.education.hants.gov.uk/intranet/meetings/meetingdetails.php?id=3

9 Items Raised by Governors

Following the meeting these were suggested:

· IT services and whether schools are locked in to contracts with them

· Use of school grounds (not the buildings) as a community facility, ie open or not?

10 Dates of Future Meetings

Monday 24th May 2004